I'm so sorry to hear that. ((((Lisa))))
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My dog, Alice, 12 yrs old...died last night.
by lisavegas420 inshe was fine an hour earlier.
we went to bed at 10pm.
she was laying in her bed next to mine.
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My blood pressure has gone down since I quit the Borg
by gubberningbody init used to be like 130/75 and now it's 98-102 over 65-70.. .
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Excellent!!
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sensitivity toward right and wrong
by man in black inthis morning i was reading an article in the paper, and a referrence was made toward st. augustine regarding his opinion on humility.. immeadly i felt upset, and after reflecting, i remember when i was a witness the wt.
made several comments over the years about how this man was a discouragement toward the true early/original jw's centuries ago.. .
but, growing up as a catholic, my grandparents attended a parish in chicago st. augustine, and throughout my younger years i learned quite a lot about the good that this man did, and the efforts he made to help the early christians.,.
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Hi MIB,
I’m also a born-in so like Little Sister I don’t have any former knowledge to fall back on.
However, in the time since I left the JWs, I’ve learnt so much about Christianity without the JW goggles. I’ve visited the Vatican twice, and traveled through Europe so I’ve had the experience to visit many churches and learn the history properly. I’m always learning so much and I am grateful for the chance to live with my eyes finally opened.
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Some thing for woman to think about
by is there help out there inalmost all woman want to get married and have children.
if you are a faithful jw woman there is a good chance this will never happen.
70% of jw are woman and 30% are men.
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Hmm… my thoughts on the subject:
As a JW sister, I was brought up with very strict rules regarding JW men. With all the anti-sex talk that the WTS sprouts, I had to repress my natural sexuality and I came to think that I wasn’t allowed to even think of a JW guy as “hot”, lest that lead to “immoral thoughts”.
Oh my.
I didn’t have any brothers, so I didn’t have any reason to socialise with the opposite sex. So I had little to relate to when it came to guys.
If a JW sister’s conversations came across to any JW guy as a “job interview”, sorry but that was for these reasons:
a) From infancy we were taught that we should look for a “spiritual man” as he was put up as the goal for all spiritually-minded sisters. Our cong was in the country so we didn’t have any Bethelites, so DAs were the only way to meet guys, sorry, brothers, outside of the circuit.
b) As has been discussed earlier, women have little status if their husbands don’t have any status in the cong. If you are unmarried, you have absolutely no status. Women are extremely repressed in the JW cong, so women try to find whatever status they can, any way that they can.
c) As I said earlier, I had little in common with other guys in my cong, so what did we have in common – the “truth”! So if I didn’t know what to talk about, at least that was a common denominator.
As I got older, I started to feel as though I was an untouchable. Even though I had lost weight, wore stylish clothing and worked on having a fun personality, I still got passed over for younger and cuter sisters. I was in my late 20s and never had a boyfriend, let alone been kissed.
I felt unnatural. I was in a religion which taught that women were to be wives and mothers, or pioneers. I was none of those. So I basically became a non-person. And yes, elders and MS would flirt with me, but because they knew they couldn’t touch me (and I wouldn’t get involved with a married man anyway) I was still untouchable.
Meawhile, I received some attention from worldly guys. But because I fully believed in the JW doctrine, I did not (could not) return any interest.
So I became even more untouchable. JW bros didn’t want me, and I couldn’t have a non-JW bf.
I felt like a crystal vase – something that ppl admired from afar, but never was touched.
Ironically, it was when I became inactive and was questioning my beliefs, that I finally found a JW brother who was interested in me. We met over the internet, and despite the fact that we lived on other sides of the world, we spoke on the phone regularly. We met in person and got engaged. To make a long story short, I called off the engagement because he had a one night stand and got a girl pregnant. Of course I was shattered.
By this stage, I had decided I wanted nothing to do with the JWs and left for good.
Unfortunately I don’t have a happily-ever-after story. I have dated a variety of guys, an experience I wouldn’t have had if I had stayed a JW. I’ve experienced one-night stands and long(ish)-term r’ships, but so far haven’t found “the one”. I am still single, and at 40 I am unlikely to have a family, but I am ok with that.
I just hope my JW experience hasn’t screwed me over forever, that one day a guy will be able to look past my post-JW quirks (like still having no idea what to do with birthdays) and think I’m special enough to want to live with me for the rest of our lives.
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How many you you hated to wait in the car while someone was on a good call!
by life is to short insomething i have not heard before on this board is waiting in the car out in service or any of the woman who were elders wives waiting on their husbands while in an elders meeting.. i was 24 years old when i got married to an older man he was 41 and had been an elder for about 12 years.
i truly loved my husband when we got married.
i truly loved him like crazy.
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I can relate to the waiting waiting waiting for elders meetings, because my dad was an elder and there would be times we (me, mum and sister) would have to wait while Dad was involved in an elders meeting. We also lived in the country although we lived not too far from the Hall so at least we didn’t have a long ride home. But I definitely remember sitting in a very empty Hall.
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Gray hairs and the Stress of Coming Out of the WTS
by Scott77 into many, coming out of the cult- griping wts's enslavement, mind control and bondage to freedom have not been an easy journey.
some have developed stress, depression, other committed sucide, had broken marriages, severed family and social relationship.
still, others had to contend for years, the scourge of emotional turmil on their lives.
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I started getting grey hairs regardless of being a JW.
It’s just a natural part of aging.
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I don’t believe that religion and spirituality are one and the same.
It was this conundrum which started me to explore my religion’s beliefs in comparison to what I personally believed.
Spirituality is something which comes from within, you either have it or you don’t. It has nothing to do with how many hours you spend studying JW publications, or how many meetings you attend.
I encourage you to explore your spiritual beliefs. Don’t get caught up with concepts such as “one true religion” and other things man-made religions have tried to tell you. Work out for yourself what you believe is true, and what works for you.
Many ex-JWs have explored Eastern religions, such as Buddhism, which may help you connect to your personal sense of spirituality.
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Did The Witnesses "Do A Job" On You?
by minimus inwere you really screwed up because of having been a witness?.
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That’s what I just said!
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Did The Witnesses "Do A Job" On You?
by minimus inwere you really screwed up because of having been a witness?.
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I was screwed up anyway!
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LOVE your ENEMIES: where Jesus goes wrong
by Terry inmatthew 5:44 "but i say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,.
luke 6:35 "but love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return.
the most radical teaching attributed to jesus has implications if followed.. an invading hoarde of mongols would not be resisted.. a christian husband would not only allow his wife and daughters to be raped; he would be compelled to forgive the rapist, pray for him and offer.
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Excusing is to not hold accountable. Forgiving is to excuse, overlook, or make allowances for an injury. They do not differ substantially
I disagree. Forgiving does not make excuses, but it is simply a way of getting over the injury.
I have been wronged in the past, and I chose to forgive. Why? Because forgiveness is more for the benefit of the forgiver, not the forgiven. Once you have forgiven, you can move on. You are not held back by anger and thoughts of vengeance.
In other words, you move on.